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What a great, concise interview. I love the distinction between a hands on husband and an equal partner and the story of how many men dropped out! I think many men think the goal is hands on husband and it just isn't. I often here the retort that "look at all the dads at school drop off" as to proof to how far we have come, but that is just one task in a list of parenting tasks and we shouldn't give them gold stars for doing one thing.

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